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Steve Herschbach
09-17-2012, 12:27 PM
There are lots of good reasons to mark your mining claims. Let's ignore the fact the signs keep getting stolen and look at some sign options. As in ones you can buy. Certainly making your own is a good idea, especially since they will probably get stolen!

AMDS has an couple options at http://www.akmining.com/cart/misc_mining_supplies.htm that remind people you have the exclusive mineral rights to the property, and that although they may enter they may not remove minerals.

Possibly a better option are mine safety signs. These have a dual purpose, in that they help cover you from any liability issues from someone falling in that hole you dug. And warning of possible danger may be more likely to deter people than worning them about the valuable minerals they should not take. These signs turn out to be hard to find but I finally found a source of several at http://www.mysafetysign.com/SAF/QS/mine.aspx I kind of like the "stay out, stay alive" theme!

chickenminer
09-18-2012, 10:33 AM
Because of the absurd amount of hunter traffic in the last few years, I looked into numerous aspects of access to/on mining claims. Both State & Federal, old and new.

For the most part, on unpatented claims there is no legal way to curtail access. So signage
became the most practical aid in helping.

I purchased those signs from AMDS. I like them. Those signs are as far as I am willing to go though. I personally would never post a sign that said "DANGER" or "UNSAFE MINE" on any mining claim I can not block access to. If anyone ever had an accident and you had those signs posted, it seems to me you are acknowledging you KNEW there was a danger and/or had an unsafe mine site.

Steve Herschbach
09-18-2012, 12:33 PM
The liability is more likely to be the opposite. Someone gets hurt and there were no signs around warning of potential danger. That is why we have to put warning signs/labels on virtually anything warning about the slightest possibility of injury. A hole in the ground is inherently dangerous and it cannot be argued you should not have the hole - it is a mine.

http://cache.virtualtourist.com/4/1930179-Warning_Sign_on_Cook_Inlet_Anchorage.jpg

Brian Berkhahn
09-18-2012, 06:32 PM
I think both Steve and Dick have very good points, I have a "DANGER" "ACTIVE MINE" sign that I have been looking for more of. It's hard to find a sign that doesn't say "Keep out" on it as legally you can not prevent anyone from entering a Federal or State mining claim except for the immediate area of production. An Unsafe Mine sign can be argued both ways, either you are letting people know that there are area's that are unsafe or since you knew these area's were unsafe you should've taken extra steps to ensure peoples safety. Both are good arguements but it's something I'm sure a jury would have to decide.

Since there are so many people out there that have really no idea about how big mining claims are or where they are on a mining claim I have even pondered the idea of putting up a screen shot from Google Earth saying.. "You are here" on it so they know where they are.. that way there's absolutely no excuse for working on my claims.

Just a thought.

chickenminer
09-18-2012, 07:24 PM
Steve/Brian ....
Good points for sure. I have no problem with signs. I have had hand made signs that
say "ACTIVE MINE SITE" for years. I also have no problem with KEEP OUT signs. You can not block or stop people from crossing your claim, but you can indeed post a KEEP OUT sign in your active mining area. My hesitation is purely with the wording.

Cal_Gold_Dredger
09-18-2012, 10:00 PM
Offer a blunt choice. Seriously I have a few signs that say "Danger - Unsafe Mine Site" they work to a point. Hopefully not interpreted the wrong way by MSHA.

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTyvymtOMrZ0Quebtvh7GqwG7mzai6EX owuX6XM87WBJxXvAtMnpQ

Bob(AK)
09-18-2012, 11:09 PM
I think I would say "Active mine site, may be dangerous depending on your own common sence"

Marshall/Ak
09-19-2012, 09:39 AM
A hardrock mine I recently visited on the Kenai Peninsula had quite creative signage. I won't go into the legality of these, but I think the skeleton may be effective in scaring off some people!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/KL7EU/1930_zps44ede358.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v163/KL7EU/Skeleton_zps86ea6b14.jpg


A quick peek inside the adit revealed a padlocked entrance, with signs inside that read: "inhalation hazard", and "keep out"